Published Dec 21, 2015
Brandon Chubb reflects on time at Wake Forest
Les Johns
DeaconsIllustrated.com Publisher
The postseason accolades continue to roll in for Wake Forest linebacker Brandon Chubb. He's been voted to both the media and coaches' All-ACC First Team. He's earned recognition as an All American from football writer Phil Steele and he just won the Sixth Annual Pop Warner College Football Award, which recognizes a graduating senior who has made a difference on the field, in the classroom and in his community.
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More than all that, Brandon Chubb was the heart and soul of the 2015 Demon Deacons. Though the Deacs won just six games total in his final two seasons, Chubb's leadership through the Dave Clawson transition years will pay dividends down the road for Wake Forest in terms of future victories. He helped lay the foundation that will lead the Deacs to bowl appearances and potential conference championship runs.
Chubb recently chatted with Deacons Illustrated, where he reflected on his time at Wake Forest, talked about both the highs and lows during his time in Winston-Salem, and shared his pre-NFL draft strategy.
On winning the Pop Warner Player of the Year award and the trip to Disney that came with it
Chubb: "It was a really good experience and a great time. John Butler (executive director of Pop Warner Football) is a great man and it was great to have him and the Pop Warner organization honor me. I was really appreciative of it and it was just an honor to be around people like John and his staff. The Pop Warner event was first-class. It was at ESPN's Wide World of Sports. I had a good time. I got to do a ESPN set and it was an awesome time. The best part of it was the nightcap when me and the Pop Warner people and the Pop Warner kids got to go to Hollywood Studios (Orlando) at night. Pop Warner actually gave me a Fast Pass, so I got to enjoy a bunch of rides. It was an awesome experience and I was just honored to be recognized by Pop Warner and John Butler."
What was your favorite ride?
Chubb: "The Hollywood Tower of Terror. That was fun. I lost my stomach a couple times, but once I got off I was laughing and cracking up."
On what he'll miss most about Wake Forest as he moves forward in the next step of his career
Chubb: "Just the culture of Wake Forest and the community of Winston-Salem. Wake Forest has done a lot for me. They gave me an opportunity when I was 17 -- an opportunity a lot of other teams didn't give me. I made the most of it, and during those four and a half years Wake Forest has taught me lessons and made me a better person. I changed from a boy to adulthood at Wake Forest. I came in at 17. Most kids are still in high school at 17. I came into Wake Forest at 17, and they embraced me and took in a guy who was kind of lost, young and immature and molded him into a man. That was a great job by the coaches who were around me, the athletic staff and the academic support staff. Also the fans being in the Winston-Salem community and being able to outreach to the community and see people at Fan Fest who come up and say, 'Hey, you're my favorite player.' That's motivation and encouragement from the fans and helped me keep my head up. Also, my teammates. They helped form a huge bond that I'm going to miss the most."
On what he considers his biggest moment at Wake
Chubb: "Football wise, I'll always remember my first start. It was a home game and I got a pick-six that game. I felt like it was a defining moment for myself in terms of football. It was the first time I had been put on that big of a stage. I'd also say the Louisville game this season. For those that were watching that hadn't seen us before probably realized that I can play at this level -- not just a stat-stuffer, but also an overall player that can contribute when it counts. As a Wake Forest student, I'd say the defining moment was the day I went to student athlete development and asked if I could volunteer and get involved in the community. That's when I was introduced to H.O.P.E. (Help Our People Eat). I would say those are the three defining moments on and off the football field.
What was the lowest point at Wake?
Chubb: "I'd say the darkest moment was probably during the coaching change. When coach (Jim) Grobe announced his resignation. We had a team meeting. Everybody went to the team meeting thinking it was just a wrap up that we do at the end of every season. Coach Grobe did it like a normal meeting, then out of nowhere he says that this was going to be the last year he was going to be with us. I just hated the whole transition period. As a young guy in the program, I'd committed to Grobe. I felt the love from him and the coaches around, and it all goes away that quickly. Nobody saw it coming. That was a low moment from that time until spring football. Everybody is just getting used to a new coach, new system and new program. It's depressing at times. What I hated is you feel the love from somebody so much and then it gets taken away from you so quick and now you have to show the love to another person. I'm appreciative for the change and what coach Clawson has done, but there's nothing negative at all about either of those two coaches. That was just my low point at Wake Forest, was going through the coaching change."
What's interesting, is that some folks shared that lowest moment and made other decisions, but you worked through that and prospered. What was the key to that?
Chubb: "Just being open to change. You have to be a coachable guy. Me being an open person to change and being an open-minded person, I was able to work through it and it worked out for me in the end. It was important for some of us to be the leaders and buy in and it led to more and more of the guys buying in too. At that same same (N.C. State coach) Dave Doeren was recruiting my brother. My brother committed and my dad asked Doeren, 'As a new coach, what advice would you give my older son.' He told my dad to advise me to be open-minded and meet with the coach when he first gets on campus, introduce yourself and build a relationship with him. That's what I did in the first or second week I was in his office, having a meeting with him and the coordinators. I wanted them to put a face to the name and establish a relationship early. I just reached out with an open heart to Clawson, sat down with him and got to know him as a coach and a person. I just wanted to establish to him that was a leader and that I was all-in."
On what he would say to a high school junior or senior considering Wake Forest right now
Chubb: "I'd say get in while it's hot. From what I've seen the last couple years, this team is going nowhere but up. The program itself is changing at Wake Forest. We're up there in the ACC with all the other teams in terms of facilities now. It's ridiculous what they're doing with the indoor facility and the locker rooms -- then the team is just loaded with talent, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Imagine when Tabari (Hines), Cortez (Lewis) and Kendall (Hinton) are juniors. Imagine when Justin Herron and Phil Haynes are juniors. All these people that have the talent but are too young right now to actually put it all together. Wake Forest is only going up from here. They need to get it while it's hot. Wake Forest as a team is going to be competing at a high level next year and the year after it's only going to go up from there. The way coach Clawson and his staff are rebuilding this program and the process that's been going on with the Awakening -- it's coming to fruition right now. I'd tell a high school recruit that Wake is the place to be."
How would you describe the atmosphere in the Wake locker room versus a couple years ago?
Chubb: "It's definitely been an improvement, just from a maturity standpoint, a professional standpoint and a positive standpoint. The locker room, when I first got there -- and this is no negativity toward coach Grobe and his staff -- there was negativity in that locker room and players that didn't want to practice. There were upper classmen that were complaining about practice or going in full pads. They complained they didn't want to go to workouts -- basically complaining about everything. There was a lot of negativity. Even if the whole team's mindset wasn't that way, if you have guys that people look up to that rubs off. Thankfully, I didn't soak any of that in, but that was the locker room when I first got here. We were front-runners, as bad as it sounds. We were guys that when things were going good we were all-in, but when it hit the fans there were people with heads down and negative vibes. Now, the locker room is encouraging and positive. Guys are pumping each other up when we're getting ready. You don't hear people complain about conditioning or full pads anymore. Guys are ready to practice and ready to compete. The locker room knows now that all these things the coaches are asking us to do that we might not like to do is just getting us better. Guys understand that now. Younger guys are expected to play older in a football sense. A redshirt freshman is still a freshman, but we expect you to act like a junior, play like a junior and think like a junior. That's the locker room -- guys are positive and encouraging. This is a division one program that's ready to compete in their conference. They're ready to make strides and improve. The game isn't just on Saturday, but also Monday through Friday, and the off season."
On what the next few months look like for him. What's on your calendar and how are you getting prepared for the NFL Draft?
Chubb: "I graduated with the last of the finals and I did the graduating walk with my class in the summer. My degree is complete and I finished on December 12. I signed with an agent earlier this week and I'm training now until the combine. In between now and the draft, I'll be involved in the combines and the Wake Forest Pro Day. From now until draft day, with me training and working my butt off -- I want to repeat what I did out of high school and prove people wrong. I've come from an underdog to someone people respect."
On getting recognition in regards to making All-ACC teams, but still not showing up on major mock draft boards yet
Chubb: "It hasn't translated yet, and that's kind of what I'm talking about in terms of being an underdog. I think as time goes on and people get closer to the draft, and they see combines and individual workouts, scouts will be able to see me and the numbers I put up. That will start translating. Agents are all kind of dumbfounded on how someone could have the All-ACC credentials but not be mentioned on these mock drafts. These things will help motivate me in terms of competing at the combines."
How would you like Wake Forest fans to remember your time here?
Chubb: "I'd like for them to not remember how every Saturday ended -- but that I gave every Saturday. Not the result, but if you bought a ticket to watch Wake Forest play, you at least saw a guy that gave it all -- gave blood and sweat on the field every Saturday. No matter the scoreboard and no matter the opponent - that I was a guy that tried to give it all to his team and his program."
On if he still plans on being the first NFL player to also go to outer space
Chubb: "Oh yeah. That dream is still alive. I already know one of my Christmas presents. I got a NASA jacket for Christmas. I'm still hoping to be the first football player to go to outer space. The dream is still alive and I wear the necklace every day."